are highly damaging to the administration. this one is a bit more of a show. >> you know, what strikes me is that what held pelosi up, and correct me if i'm wrong me if this is wrong, with that public opinion had swung in favor of impeachment after the mueller report came out. and then she left it to the committees that would have robert mueller and his witnesses to do the work as swaying public opinion. here she's gotten the latest quinnipiac poll. 55% of americans for the removal of donald trump from office a year before an election. she also has in a poll i saw today 65% of americans oppose any sort of stonewalling from the trump white house. she's got the wind at her back in terms of public opinion, something she never had after mueller. >> well, you can make the case, and this is criticism that public opinion has followed leadership, that a good chunk of the public that wasn't there initially were democrats who were following her lead. when she jumped on board, they followed her. now luckily we have a former member of congress who worked