against president trump. that tells you everything you need to know. the people who have already spoken out against president trump want this to be public. they want to hear from rudy giuliani himself. they want the american people to have access to these facts. but as phil says, the facts are not on president trump's side. that is where he thrives when he can muddy the waters and throw out these generalizations and confuse the american people with all his noise. this goes back to the obama birther conspiracy. he didn't need the facts. he didn't want the facts, despite launching that egregious claim against the president and that has followed him through his political career even in an impeachment inquiry. he doesn't care about the facts. and republicans who will be his sycophants don't want the facts either. >> what's really remarkable about this is everything is moving so fast and the white house still does not remotely have its act together in terms of how it's going to message on this and what they are going to say and, you know, your president's saying, well, i am the team and lindsey graham is like well they are trying to put