facing criminal liability, not to mention professional jeopardy. >> ellen, let me put this back to you. the story and your reporting, one of the hallmarks of your reporting is the care with which everything is described and written for us, the readers. but i wonder if you can tell us if this whistleblower ever intended or desired for any of this to become public. usually they do not. >> yes. usually they do not. i believe the whistleblower did want this to eventually get to the congress. but the whistleblower's main goal was to follow the procedures, report the potential wrongdoing or serious or flagrant abuse problem and let the process play out. let those who are empowered or whose job it is to adjudicate this problem or this issue