donald trump, i'm not sure if he ever met him, did. he doesn't even view it the way the reluctant framers might have. he views it as a good -- like the way he probably hands out cuff links from the oval. here's some chum for my political patrons. >> the pardon power in the most benign way is about sympathy, it's about mercy of the the quality of mercy -- >> it's about equaling the scales of justice. >> but he uses it as a quid pro quo. even in "the washington post" when it says you do what i will say and i will pardon you, that's a malfeasance quid pro quo right there for the whole world to see. >> and it's not an immunity tote emfor "survivor." you can't hand it out and say keep doing all of these things. at some point michael comey even realizes to break the law donald trump wants you to break, you can't do the things he wants you to break it for. >> and asking anyone who walks into the white house to do his