tell fred that if he didn't get some help pretty soon, he was going to go to the cops. >> okay. give me a call tomorrow and i'll see what i can do to help you. >> but after all that frank did not make the incriminating call to fred asking for money. so the very next day uncle john tried again. >> hey, did you get a hold of fred? >> no, between you and i, i don't mind taking care of him. >> frank asked the time and agreed to meet uncle john in person to hand over some money. >> thousand oaks mall. >> it's on lynn road. >> lynn? >> yes, off 101. >> lynn road, the irany was apparently lost on frank jaramillo. it was mid-morning late november, detective nelson was worried. would he show up? >> you sit in a parking lot by yourself and you kind of go