>> just horrible. >> it is just so eating. >> the whole night had have been all over again. >> that one sure, you know, i saw her and went to talk to her. >> what did you say? >> i thought she was an idiot. >> it was certainly difficult for me, it was far more difficult for the family. >> murray promised the family justice, spent two years putting a new case together, and just weeks before trial he got a call. it was from thompson tierney, saying his client was ready to cut the apron strings and testify against his mom. >> there is no way that we ever suspected that tom would have return on his mother. he was known to be a mama's boy. >> but a mama's boy who decided he did not want to die in prison, tom pleaded guilty to second degree murder, got 15 to life. besides helping connect the crime to his mother, tom had someone else he wanted to give up. that friend of brett schwab, the one --