>> there q and a session was state. >> okay, when did you get into alaska? >> a, it was in the nineties sometime. >> i just start talking to him about his life. where he grew up, where he went to school. how he got up into alaska. >> so you didn't jump right in and say we know you kill this girl? >> no. just try to gain some report with him. basically we spoken joked for a while. did you travel to the state quite a bit? >> a little bit. it went up to denali a couple times with friends from the military. i've been to maybe, valdes a few times, i like it down there. >> found out he was a fifth degree black belt, martial arts. he was right number 10 in the world in a fighting competition. >> wow. >> he liked a brawl in bars as he said. carried martial arts weapons in his car, including with nun chucks. >> that was his thing. he loved it. he loved the adventure. >> he was married at the time of bonnie craig's murder. but later got divorce. >> that was the worst thing i've ever scored in my life is