still angry. >> but that he was gone, and he wasn't coming back. >> right. >> mike's sister, terry, hadn't yet learned about mike sister with the mysterious dave simmons, or about the accusation that her brother was secretly gay. ellen didn't share any of that with terry, until a few years after mike had disappeared. she told other people about it, at the time. >> but, not us. she did so that out to us at first. >> and if that make any sense to you? >> oh, goodness, no. i don't believe for one minute them a rather is gay. >> that was only one of the components to ellen story that detective wilson wanted to check out. he says he asked allen to come down to the police department, to meet with him in person. only, she wouldn't. >> she said, he's not missing. >> we said, well we want to find him. even asking her to come in to help us find him, she would not come in. >> so, ellen and detective wilson never did meet face to face. she claims she was giving him