phone? >> he's not making a whole lot of sense. still a moaning. >> i'm not going to hurt nobody. >> o.j., we know that. pick it up. >> i'm not going to hurt you guys. >> nothing seemed to be changing simpson's mind. the s.w.a.t. team knew to get him out they first had to get al cowlings out. >> listen to me, o.j. listen to me. and then what you could call a fortune mishap. the cell phone simpson was using to talk to the s.w.a.t. negotiator died. now they had an opportunity to get cowlings out of the car to grab a new phone. >> some sort of negotiation going on in the driveway there and it appears to be al cowlings. >> he was able to step out. we enticed him. and then when he got close to the door, we were able to secure him and then remove him from that whole process. >> roger sandler took these exclusive, close-upshots of an agitated cowlings just as he exited the bronco. >> cowlings was very volatile.