out to be no alibi at all. in short, it was hard to see how dunn's public defenders, bill james and jeff rosenzwag, could argue against their client's lies and dna. but that's exactly what they did. and with gusto. >> what you're saying is the state was simply wrong. >> the state was simply wrong. >> what's more, they told jurors, they could prove it. for starters, they said, the state wasn't being honest about the dna on that condom wrapper. it was only a mixed partial match to gary dunn, they said, which meant -- >> any thousands, millions, billions of people are also not excluded. >> let me ask you, then, is what you're saying, gary dunn didn't touch that condom wrapper? >> that's what we're saying. >> he never was anywhere near that condom wrapper -- >> well, he was across the parking lot in his apartment. >> minding his own business when nona was murdered. it's true, the defense said, dunn was not out shopping as he first claimed to police.