good measure. do you remember him saying that? >> i don't. but he said it before. he would say things like i'll kill them bl[ bleep ]. >> did you ever think he was serious? >> no. >> they then asked her about the messages she sent to him. >> i'm so close to introducing them both to daisy. >> i remember saying that. i didn't have daisy with me at the time. i think i was trying to impress michael in a weird way. >> do you think they're joking with each other or do you think it's real? >> i asked danielle that very question. why did you say this? and she said oh, just trying to sound tough. so she denied it to be for real. >> but that's not the way sam's sister saw it. when detectives showed the texts to cindy she was dumb struck. >> i could not believe what i was reading.