knowing the testing wasn't working as promoted and that promise was a sham? or was she an overhyping ceo that thought the company was actually going to deliver a breakthrough? either way, that is what the jury is going to be deciding. and just the instructions alone for those jurors are 39 pages long with those jurors so far seeming to be very attentive to detail. so no word on when we might see a verdict. >> all right. we'll see if we get one today. gaudy schwartz in california. this morning five men charged with kidnapping the michigan governor want a judge to throw out their indictment. the defense attorneys claim the federal prosecutors invented a conspiracy and entrapped their clients who could face life in prison. federal prosecutors allege the men were upset over the covid-19 restrictions.