rights and civil rights. joe biden has to step up in this moment, call on the senate to just get the bills through. he has the votes. it's just this rules issue, and we know that can be dealt with. and it's only when it's called on the party to get it done. >> why don't you think, ben, you've been around politics a long time. why don't you think so far here -- this administration has not thrown the full weight of the presidency behind this particular issue? >> you know, it baffles me a bit. i think what often happens, we saw it happen in the obama administration. everything became about health care and they needed leadership on jobs. inside of an administration, they can get linear. first we get this done and then turn to this next. well, right now, given what's happening in our democracy --