>> we also understand that we as republicans do not control this federal government, the other party does. >> except all spending originates in the house. chris hayes on the politics, howard dean on new popularity on health care. smiling and tolerating my next the come back of gabrielle giffords. >> the day she leaves this hospital. >> jared loughner and mental health. rudy has a suggestion. >> we're making a big mistake not changing our procedures with regard to mental illness and then some form of involuntary appraisal of people. >> you're dead. tucson shooting victim james eric ford, and humphrey, i apologize. >> president clinton warning against the real danger of violent rhetoric. we live in a world where what we say and how we say it can be read, heard or seen by those who understand and by those whose inner demons take them to a different place. only senator mccain and i have taken any personal responsibility for troubling rhetoric. tonight a special comment. all the news and commentary now on countdown. good evening from new york. this is monday, january 17, 659 days until the 2012 presidential election. with congress back to work house republicans are ready to govern and take ownership of their own policies bypassing a health care repeal that has no chance of advancing beyond that symbolic vote and which has lost a remarkable amount of support and by finally cutting spending. not until president obama submits his ideas on how to do that first. republicans are ready, set, go ahead mr. president you first. the house republican leader mr. cantor possibly trying redefine his party's new majority during the annual gop retreat. >> we also understand that we as republicans do not control this federal government. the other party does. >> if that seems like a statement. obvious rather than a careful reduction of expectations compare it to what congressman cantor had to say in may have last year. >> you know, there's a mentality in this town that we just got to keep spending and we can never start cutting and we're trying to change the culture here, bill. >> there's mr. cantor 11 days ago. >> from the fiscal standpoint we're going to go about reducing discretionary spending across the board to '08 levels. we're going to save the taxpayers money, each and every week we committed to bringing a bill to the floor that reduces spending, that actually changes the culture here in washington. >> the exception now or nowish. cantor's gop college, congressman garrett says congress shouldn't do anything until after the president's state of the union address. he should come to us at that point with his agenda. let's blame the cuts on that guy. even the former head of the republican governors association, haley barber trying to have it both ways. >> democrats control the senate, they control the presidency. so we're not running the government, we're not going to be able to. but we can try to stop bad things. i say "we" meaning the house republicans can try to stop bad things from going through. to limit or eliminate the funding of bad policies. but, you know, we can't pass laws unless the president agrees to. >> or maybe it's because spending cuts have actual consequences that frank assessment from nine term congressman from ohio. back in ohio almost everybody says oh, you've got to cut spending but then they say i didn't know you meant my spending. there will be a lot about that. the gop promises to repeal health care. debate on the house's repeal begins tomorrow. speaker boehner has phrases like job crushing to describe the democrats so-called spending spree. the health care bill uses the phrase job killing opinion we digress. so do republicans since their repeal won't get anywhere in the senate. as to the theater, republicans plan on passing a vaguely worded resolution on how they will replace the health care law, affordable health care act with something else. the committee charged with developing that something else will be searching for ways to dismantle the affordable care act. for example a proposal by congressman carter to oppose a regulation on the medical loss ratio. that is a consumer friendly rule requiring insurance does spend at least 80% of every premium dollar on actual health care service. congressman carter says it will wreck the insurance market. mean time affordable care act is gaining support even among republicans. 49% of republican voters support all out repeal in a poll completed a week ago. that represent as drop from the 61% of republicans who supported repeal just after the november elections. on that note let's bring in the former government of vermont, governor howard dean. thank you for your time. >> thanks for having me on. >> let's start there with health care repeal. . it got through the house f-it got through the senate somehow it gets vetoed by the president. what's the point of view here? why is this being done even from the republican mindset? >> the republicans are playing to their base. the sad part is it looks like the republicans in 2010 are the same as the republicans of 2000 to 2006. spend, spend, spend and no guts. don't rock the boat. i will be fascinated to see if there's not a tea party rebel lone rebellion. this is politics as usual. >> what's the other point if that poll number is correct, if support among ordinary republicans for repeal was 61% right after the election and it's down to 49% in a span of two months why do it? >> the heated rhetoric has dissipated some. they do it because they are afraid of their base. they have a very militant base some of whom really believe this ought to be repealed. not a big number as you point out. they've huge problem now. they can't get a majority in the senate in 2010 if they behave like this and they certainly can't get a president elected if they don't stand up for anything and they appear to be taking the path of too many politicians of both parties have taken that not stand for anything. say one thing and when you get elected run for the hills. >> select out these issue was republican versus democrat and all the rest of it, what's going to happen next. tell me what it means for the republican support for repealing health care to have dropped from 61% to 49% in two months. >> people are discovering there are some things in this bill that do good. a lot of these folks have their kids are insured again they can keep them on their policies until 26. they can't be denied health insurance again because now if they have a pre-existing condition insurance companies can't refuse to give it to them. now some of the things that the obama administration talked about have actually happened to middle class people and middle class people whether they are republicans or democrats are discovering this bill does some good and that's not what they were led to believe by the right wing. >> what do the democrats do as republicans enact this? what's the best strategy? >> tell the truth and move on. people want jobs. they want to put the fighting of the last two years behind them and start to work on the economy. that's what the president will talk about during the state of the union address. >> is there some sense all of this on the part of the republicans is a warm up act for whatever it is when they come up with spending cuts this would soften up the possibility of underfunding implementation of health care reform. >> they won't come up with any spending cuts. i was shocked with i saw that eric cantor interview. they turned into nothing and blew away in the wind. this is a useless majority. unfortunately our majority wasn't strong as it should have been like on things on health care. but they are squandering whatever they got elected to do and will be seen as another set of politicians that was in there and that won't help them much 2012. >> when we talk about strong days of leadership under the democrats in the house and senate of 2009 -- well, you know, that will tell you the direction of the political scene is going. >> nancy pelosi is looking pretty good. >> she does anyway but that's another story. governor dean, thanks. let's turn to the washington editor of the nation. chris hayes. good evening. broaden out for us. waiting for the not propose spending and cuts as howard dean just said what happened to those republican promises we're not only going cut spending we'll cut spending every week on thursday about 2:00, give us to 3:00 if lunch goes long. >> i thought it was a refreshingly honest comment by steve basically about the fact that is always this. people dislike spending in the abstract and they like it in the concrete. they don't like government spending as sort of aren't abstract but when it comes to programs people use they don't want to see them cut. way republicans have squared the circle in the past is increase spending to the constituencies that vote for them and decrease them for constituencies that vote for democrats. that's what we'll see them do this time. >> is that strategy of let's you go first mr. president is that the whole point of that to get him to make the first proposal and then howl about it and then claim victory? >> it would be preposterously disingenuous to bait the president. let us recall that the number one top line attack on the president's health care bill in the 2010 mid-terms was cuts to medicare. these were the -- remember this is the great tea party insurgency that wants to see smaller government and the number one problem of their president's bill was to cut medicare. if they can bait the president into proposals to cut things that their constituency likes they will go after him. >> is it even broader than that? could republicans have studied the coalition in britain and how it has been brutalized by the public there for making these budget cuts even though it was necessary to make it happen. republicans hoping to try to avoid that by making the president go first and in some way blaming all cuts no matter who they were directed at on the president? is that what we're hearing in these sound bites particularly that stuff from cantor? >> i think that's part of it. part of it is trying to figure out what this middle path will be. a bigger part of it is trying to sort of ratchet down expectations particularly for the base. basically, my understanding of how republicans are entering this session is, okay, tea party, okay base we're going give you the health care repeal bill, we talked about that, isn't that nice, boom, we passed it. eventually they will have to pass a budget and raise the debt ceiling. those two things have to happen. when those two things happen, this insurgent conservative movement will be extremely unhappy with the results ivt. it's very hard to see them coming to some agreement that the most extreme members of the caucus are happy with. so what i think they are trying to communicate is they are already trying to ratchet down expectations and punk the right-wing on what they do and i think they are just sort of trying to telegraph it. >> one question about health care reform. the poll numbers for the president have been moving up. does that help the polling on health care or is it just the advantages of health care reform are now beginning to be visible? >> it's really hard. my sense is that the raw numbers of people that have been helped, particularly when you look at a week, a week difference between 49 and 61, it's hard to possibly come up with a count where, you know, enough people got new benefits, that that actually brought those numbers down. what you're seeing is two things. one the last lot of fatigue with the health care fight as a political fight. i'm not sure that your average sort of independent not super partisan voter is that excited about refighting the health care battle. there's this inclination on the part of the populace to let sleeping dogs lie in terms of the health care bill. also the economy is not doing well in a lot of respects but it's not tanking. it's reached this strange limbo and what we've seen the president's approval ratings have plateaued. >> chris hayes. thanks for pinch-hitting last week. >> you bet. >> gabrielle giffords health, continues to improve. the fight over mental health and involuntary commitment and the discourse over our rhetorical health and why there hasn't been very much. special comment on the last nine days tonight on "countdown." 522 bucks -- that's what people save, on average, when they call me to switch to esurance. if they switch to esurance online, they could save 522 clams. i could save 'em 522 smackers. you talkin' dough? 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[ female announcer ] you could save 522 bucks. see for yourself at esurance. technology when you want it. people when you don't. for the ninth straight day more good news about the congresswoman gabrielle giffords. the mental health aspect, involuntary commitment. today he hits the nail on the head of violent rhetoric heard by the unstable. why is the list of those that have taken personal responsibility for any inappropriate rhetoric is limited to this man and me. tonight my special comment. @@ mark kelly the astronaut husband of gabrielle giffords might have hoped somebody would be worried enough about his stresses to give him a ten minute massage. he couldn't have imagined it would have been his wife. our fourth story tonight, gabrielle giffords well enough to be off a ventilator and on a breathing tube and suffered no setback despite minor surgery to remove chips of bone from above her right eye, surgery that required anesthesia. the next step is leaving the hospital, possibly within days to begin her long term rehab and recovery center. mark kelly also says she's smiling at him. she has sight apparently good. on the massage point. kelly telling abc news, i keep telling her, gaby you're in icu you don't need to be doing this. her condition upgraded from critical to serious. our national discourse too soon. shooting victim apologized for his outburst who said you're dead. arrested and committed to a mental hospital. he said his outburst was misplaced outrage. they are not sure whether fuller is a threat to the community but getting fuller treatment for mental illness if he needs it. today on this martin luther king day, two leaders spoke about rhetoric. mr. cheney resisting the notion that violent rhetoric could fuel violent action. not so former president clinton. in a statement on mlk day, saying quote we live in a world where what we say and how we say it can be read, heard or seen by those who understand exactly what we mean and by those whose inner demons take them to a different place. a new poll taken after the shooting show a handful of americans, 5% or 6% calling violence against the current u.s. government justified, but 13% of the tea party says it is. let's turn now to our washington bureau chief of mother jones magazine. david, good evening. >> good evening, keith. >> we'll talk about that mental health issue later at length but president clinton's statement was i thought very important. very precise. he made a big distinction. he said it was wrong to suggest any political figure ever intended their words to incite something like that shooting last saturday but he said quite plainly you have to judge the impact of your words on those who might be unstable or who otherwise might be hearing what they want to hear other than what you're saying. this suggests there's daylight between mr. clinton's position on causality and president obama's? >> there's a little. i don't want to slice it too thin. the former president got it right today. i think president obama is president of all americans. even those who believe he's a secret socialist muslim born in kenya who wants to destroy the united states. so i think trying to have a different note on his part, rising above the fray, not pointing fingers. one thing he said in tucson is he said that the debate not just had to be reasonable and respectful, the political discourse to be honest. i really think that's a role that he can play. we've seen in the past two years republicans say the jobs bill or excuse me the recovery package created no new jobs. death panels. they said he palled around with terrorists. they said things that were not true. i would hope when the time is right, it might be campaign season, might be in the next two years, president obama will be very forceful in making sure things like that do not take root in the public discourse. >> the possibility of daylight between viewpoints on the other side of the equation, the interview mr. cheney had that will run tomorrow on "the today show" that perhaps we should avoid things like targets on websites which is referring to the palin cross-hairs map and others. is there a split here between the unapologetic tea party of apocalyptic rhetoric and others who want to use the tea party energy to lower taxes for the rich? is this a schism. >> don't know if you can call it a schism when you have the tail wagging the dog. that's what you have here with the tea party. i go back to fall of 20 oat when there was a rally of tea partiers against the health care bill that was organized and seen by republican leaders including john boehner when the crowd starts chanting nazis, nazis in reference to the. democrats in support of the bill. at that point in time there should be a line between republican leaders who have some responsibility for a respectful and responsible debate and their followers who they can at least admonish. once you start calling people nazis or terrorists, whether you tell people there are second amendment remedies it sets the tone that these are people who don't deserve to live. >> the 13% of tea the partiers who feel violence against this government is justified how would of they have obtained that belief if not through political rhetoric? >> there's a feedback loop going on here. these people start off with being anti-government and being paranoid in a lot of ways about the government. the black helicopter gang back in the '90s. the republicans, party members come along, they see this and they start pandering. they say there's anti-americans in the congress. sarah palin on the campaign trail said that barack obama didn't like america. and they use second amendment remedies rhetoric like sharon engle did out in nevada. so this sort of feeds the paranoia and recycles it. you should expect more of people who take on the mantel of leadership. >> david, thanks as always. >> thank you. the mental health component. rudy giuliani's push to solve everything by having the government involuntarily commit anybody who acts strangely. rudy giuliani solution to the mental health issues of jared loughner involuntary commitment for everybody. careful, rudy. first a much needed humor break. let's play odd ball. we begin in georgia where last week's winter storm had plow crews working overtime. here they are clearing a parking deck. mr. plow, that name again is mr. plow. this could mean only one of two things. the plow men are getting ready to strike or they overloaded the truck and crashed at the top level of a parking deck. fortunately it was the latter and nobody was hurt. the structure was empty at the time. there's one less spot he needs to clear during the next storm. from the worldwide web, oprah may have cornered the market of texting while driving what about the cause of texting while walking. splash. too engrossed on the phone, the text addict fails to avoid the large fountain and goes for a brief swim. she recovers okay shake off the water and walking away. maybe next time she will watch out for large bodies of water in the mall by seeing if there's an app for that. time marches on. mental health and rhetorical health and nine days later how come the only people taking personal responsibility for what they said be me and john mccain? those who cross paths with those who cross paths with tucson gunman jared loughner say warning signs were accumulating. our third story are sign and signs alone enough to remove american citizens from society against their will? former new york mayor rudy giuliani trying to turn the story into an excuse for a round up. >> we're making a big mistake not changing our procedures with regard to mental illness and then some form of involuntary appraisal of people who display situations where teachers have to have guards to protect themselves. >> after posting a video about his college, loughner was suspended from campus until he was to receive a mental health evaluation. he never sought the help and left the school. loughner's behavior at his college never violated the law. >> he was disruptive in a pima college classroom and i personally don't want a police state where anybody who is perhaps has an opinion or stands out in their classroom or does something goofy in their classroom gets arrested and then put in some kind of mental rehab system. >> on the one hand the argument that jared loughner displayed obvious mental illness but wasn't forced to seek treatment. on the other hand his behavior however bizarre shouldn't lead to new restrictions on our liberties. funding for behavioral treatment in arizona was cut by as much as 50 percent last year. that gutting denied mental health services to nearly 28,000 arizona residents. the executive director of southern arizona chapter of alliance of mental illness joins us now. thank you for your time tonight, doctor. >> glad to be here. thank you. >> this fundamental question first of when to intervene. is it actually irrelevant if the funding isn't there to do anything with people whom you think about intervening? >> well, i think it's a checkerboard situation. i think the regulations that are on the books in arizona can be useful tools for people to help them and help others get help for them. the difficulty with the budget cuts is that oftentimes when people are involuntarily committed, the money may not be there when they get out of the hospital to give them continuation of care. >> tell me more about the budget cuts. give us some sort of perspective besides no followup or limited followup when people get out of that immediate emergency sort of care. what specifically is not happening? >> well, i would say here in pima county, beginning as early as january 1st, 2010, somal 2800 people were expelled from the public mental health system because they did not have a serious mental illness diagnosis. that was the first wave. the second wave came on july 1st of 2010, where people, individuals who did have a serious mental illness diagnosis, but weren't poor enough, in other words they didn't qualify for medicaid called access here in arizona, those individuals lost virtually every service that they were getting except generic medications. so they lost access to their doctor, their case manager, support groups, out patient services, transportation subsidies and eventually housing subsidies. so essentially they were kicked out except generic medication. >> in an ideal situation, full budgets and such what could have happened differently with loughner other than something involved him volunteering or agreeing to be treated? >> well, i think that there was enough evidence at least from what i've read, obviously i don't know everything, but there's several categories in the arizona statutes which allow for involuntary commitment. the most obvious one is a danger to self or others but apparently he didn't demonstrate that. there are other categories which, i believe, campus officials or campus police could have used. my agency works with law enforcement and with other mental health provider agencies, and people are involuntarily committed on these other categories on a regular basis when the circumstances deem it necessary. it's not an arbitrary process, it's a thoughtful process it's a tool that can be used. >> is there any way to say how much likely that another loughner might be out there because of these budget cuts or is that just too simplistic a question? >> well, i think that the fact that people who are making more, at least for the moment, more than 100% of the federal poverty level are now in a category that they have virtually no access to services, to public mental health services. so i think we've raised the barrier considerably higher than it used to be. so people who, you know, could be unstable are at risk. i mean the fact is that most people who do have serious mental illnesses go through their life undiagnosed and untreated. sony of those people could at any time be in a situation where the stress precipitates their symptoms and the services are moving further away from them. >> h. clark roman, executive director of the southern arizona chapter of the national alliance on mental illness. thank you for your time tonight, sir. >> you're welcome. >> nine days later and still almost no one left or right is taking responsibility, personal responsibility for any of the violent imagery or rhetoric. my special comment hide. when rachel joins you, her special guest michael moore on the need for better gun control laws. nine days ago i asked every politician and commentator to renounce violent rhetoric. one politician has taken responsibility. pretty much everybody else just got louder. special comment next. finally tonight as promised a special comment on the nine days since tucson. that awful night i said this, we need to put the guns down just as importantly we need to put the gun metaphors away permanent left, right, middle, politicians, citizens, sane and insane. the age at which this country would accept targeting of political opponents and putting bull's eye over their face and i cited seven violent examples from the right and one from the left my own. the point of that comment was not that the right pulled the trigger in tucson but that we as citizens must stop the next loughner and the only potentially way to do this is to accept personal responsibility and pledge that violence or the threat of violence have no place in our democracy and i apologize and repudiate any act or anything in my past that may have inadvertently encouraged violence. former president clinton issued a statement that would have honored dr. king's 82nd birthday. while no one intends to his message to harm we live in a world that what we say or how we say it can be understood by those who know what we mean and those whose demons take them to a different place. we should follow the example dr. king set and exercise our freedom of speech in ways that both clarify our honest differences and nurture the best of us rather than bring out the worst. perfect. yet the response? to date only one commentator or politician has expressed the slightest introspection, the slightest self awareness, the slightest ownership of the existence of fantasy dream cloud of violent language by which we're blinded. our political discourse john mccain wrote in an otherwise steaming serving of "the washington post" op ed partisan flash should be more civil than it currently is and we all, myself include bear some responsibility for it not being so. that's it. one person bearing any responsibility. john mccain. not palin, not beck, not limbaugh. not o'reilly, not engle, not president obama. it's me and john mccain. not palin, not beck, not limbaugh. not o'reilly, not engle, not president obama. it's me and john mccain. i assume he's like me now. i'm not sure whether to be laugh, cry or be proud of that. what did everybody else say? they said it was everybody else's fault and they said with it more violence before. in order last monday while most on both sides were looking at the wealth of bogus documents that now traditionally follow these things a writer posted the headline, whoops this changes things, loughner's hero was barack obama. jim hoft criticed a reference on the free republican site to a facebook page belonging to jared loughner to racist tea party and fight the right, identifying his heroes as obama, chavez and saul. he never noticed on the loughner facebook page tyranny is misspelled and so is loughner. one complained about the coverage. bob durgin said somebody ought to burn that paper down. go to new york and blow that sucker right out of the water. his supervisor claimed we do not advocate violence period. that's why this whole outcry over the shootings in tucson being linked to talk radio is just crazy. last monday another radio announcer rush limbaugh disclaimed sheriff dupnik. he criticized catering to illegals. limbaugh blamed him for the shootings and added my guess is the sheriff wouldn't mind if the shooter was acquit. even also said i would wager the sheriff knew of this shooter long before this event which was brave of mr. limbaugh considering the sheriff said as much two days previously. last monday glenn beck posted a call for nonviolence on his website alongside of his image posing with a gun. he demand everyone renounce violence as well as liberals renounce an 80-year-old man. he'll be obsessed with somebody else within the week. peter king of new york offer a limited by useful prohibition of carrying weapons. the leader of his party, speaker boehner rejected it out of hand without public comment or any hearing. on tuesday another radio announcer mark levin wrapped up the case for his audience. we all know without question that the murdererer in tucson was mentally ill, a liberal pothead and all the rest ivt. we know this for a fact. michael savage decried for using violent rhetoric. mr. savage called this a blood libel and threatened to sue. on tuesday congressman west of florida said he had no regrets for any of the violent rhetoric he had used during his campaign. mr. west did not address why after the tucson shootings this following video of his first choice to become his chief of staff had been pulled from youtube since restored. >> i am convinced that the most important thing the founding fathers did to ensure me my first amendment rights was they gave me a second amendment. and if ballots don't work, bullets will. >> mr. west did say he was concerned about the political opportunism. he observed pointing fingers was deplorable and unconscionable. this is not the time to look for grandstanding and things of that nature. on wednesday a high school friend of jared loughner said quote he did not watch tv, he disliked the news, he didn't listen to political radio blogger huff called for the sheriff's resignation. a high school girlfriend said loughner was strongly opinionated and would be set off by things with politics and the government. on wednesday conservative blogger john hawkins announced this was a liberal plot. keith olbermann, david brock all of them are thrilled gabrielle giffords was shot. they couldn't be happier about it. how about that? sarah palin had a video in which she identified the real victim here herself. she invoke ad blood libel possibly as a dog whistle told the ultraright and said while her words could not have caused violence words critical of her words could cause violence. on wednesday arizona congressman franks said the tragedy was there was not enough bullets flying in that tucson park lot. i wish there had been one more gun there in the hands of a responsible person. that's all i have to say. representative franks was unaware there was one more gun there. a man was carrying and walked into the carnage. he saw another man with a gun in his hands and was one second away from drawing his own gun and shoopting that man. that man had taken the gun away from the shooter. he had nearly shot one. heroes. as he put it, i was really lucky. on thursday after president obama's remarks to tucson memorial, mr. hoft shaking off his embarrassment returned nor. oops it looks like obama fibbed about giffords opening her eyes for the first time. congresswoman giffords physician confirmed that was the first time the congresswoman opened her eyes spontaneously. she had done so briefly. doubling down he then claimed there was an applause sign flashed during the president's remarks. in fact it was the closed caption on the video screen informing the hearing challenge there was an applause. bell kelly of the "the washington times" took to heart the message in mr. obama's comments. with hooting fans it wouldn't surprise me obama supporters were bussed in for the memorial. were they union employees or members of a.c.o.r.n. used to pepper the crowd to ensure conformity. he used the blood libel line himself and added i won't have my words or expressions censored by the left because they see a political opportunity to advance their agenda. on friday the former counsel to president clinton now reduced to being a paid contributor to fox news explained what he took away from this president's remarks namely mr. obama should publicly ask me to stop attacking bill o'reilly. on tuesday tucson tea party trent hum friendships explained the giffords shooting to the english newspaper the guardian. it's political gamesmanship. she had no security whatsoever at this event. james eric fuller himself a traumatized vietnam vet who had witnessed kent state referred to the tea party crime syndicate and said he believed in the giffords shooting it had claimed its first target. on saturday in a decision smacking of the tawdryness of the maury povich show. when gun control was suggested be deferred until all the victims be buried. he stood up and shouted you're dead. mr. fuller was arrested and removed for psychological evaluation. he has apologized and mr. humphreys says he doesn't feel threatened and wants fuller to get mental help. on saturday michael carroll from new jersey wrote a op ed rebutting president obama. and armed populace is the greatest bulwark of freedom. our framers understood that and envision ad society akin to switzerland. carroll not only painted america with a gun under every bed he also of course compared obama to the nazis. germany elected hitler who seized all private firearms. and lastly on saturday five days after the blogger hoft scrubbed the post about the fake facebook loughner page with loughner misspelled, doug jiles cited it as gospel as if it hadn't been discredited. his hero list includes barack obama. two days later jiles claims still stands uncorrected. nine days have passed and the willful blindness hasn't slowed down yet. besides the total absence of even the glimmer of personal responsibility that senator mccain in a have evinced the right lives in a perpetual state of victimhood. they don't even notice the irony of being unfairly criticized. the right can simultaneously insist no political party or inclination can be blamed for tucson while it itself blames the democratic party and the left for tucson. the right doesn't understand that if you, if we foment a political environment where politics are settled by violence it no longer matter what those politics specifically are or if the hearing understands your politics or agrees, he may only hear the permission to be violent and ultimately we learn, especially from mrs. palin's foolis