like, my white friends are mostly comparing themselves to other highly educated well-off white friends. >> but when you say, white people can't get it, i don't buy that. >> i don't know what they can't get? >> i don't buy that for a moment! >> since the 60s, i have been proving to myself, and there comes a point in life when you say, i'm done. it's on them now, because i know i am okay. so the way i look at it, is your loss. i don't intend to spend all of my life proving to white people that i'm okay. >> don't prove it, i think you need to get educated. >> no, we don't. >> what i'm saying is that -- >> they need to open their minds -- >> last night, i was at this