the nation and end enslavement here in the united states. the war started. well, once he realized he couldn't win this war without us, then the war started to change in lincoln's favor. 150, 000, they were enslaved, living in all southern states. they literally lived up with uniforms on and rifles and pockets. so if you think, i live in a world that's out of control and, there's nothing that i can do about it. well, there is something you can do about it, and you can take lessons from these people whose stories we tell here in this museum. i think it's liberating. >> we're making this tone that how we tell the story of the civil war, and i think you guys have been -- what did you think? >> i hear like it's living in this country. it's like, oh, the civil war, you know about it. when you start to learn about it, there's so many like, intricate details of why things happened. and i think it's it's important that we learn about it. but the one thing that does