>> i don't buy that they don't know they are privileged. >> i serve a congregation of over educated white people, who don't recognize their privilege. they don't see that you start that -- >> if you don't feel that you are privileged, how do you account for the differences between white people and disadvantaged black people? >> they're not comparing themselves to black people, right? like, my white friends are mostly comparing themselves to other highly educated well-off white friends. >> but when you say, white people can't get it, i don't buy that. >> i don't know what they can't get? >> i don't buy that for a moment! >> since the 60s, i have been proving to myself, and there comes a point in life when you say, i'm done. it's on them now, because i know i am okay. so the way i look at it, is