you have to develop a psychology on the part of the white people who were doing this, that involves enormous acts of denial. we haven't even claimed it as the horrific system that it was. >> she says, slavery is the cause. and so, many white people that we hear say, don't talk to me about slavery. i didn't own slaves. my parents didn't own slaves. >> the cultural conditioning that began in slavery has continued. the privileges that you see some white people have goes back to, i'm more than you, i'm better than you. >> why? why? why, teresa? why are they better? >> oh, i don't believe that. >> i know, but why do they think they're better? >> privilege. privilege has told them they're better. >> they don't even know that privilege. and i remember a book i read in seminary --