seminary -- >> i'm glad they don't know they're privileged. >> well, i serve a congregation of overeducated white people who don't recognize their privilege. they don't see that you start that -- >> if you don't feel that you are privileged, how do you account for the differences between white people and disadvantaged black people? >> they're not comparing themselves to black people, right? my white friends are mostly comparing themselves to other highly educated well off white friends. >> but when you say white people can't get it, i don't buy that. >> i don't know they can't get it. they don't get it. >> since the '60s, i have been proving myself, and there comes a point in life when you say i'm done. it's on them now because i know i'm okay.