it's a rare defendant that knocks it out of the ballpark. so we will see. he doesn't have to. there's no need to. why put him through that because then it opens up the door to asking a whole bunch of other things about his credibility. >> but if they feel at the end of this that they have not mounted a defense that's likely to work, would they do it? >> obviously it's up to him, so i'm saying, you know, i'm saying they won't, but if he wants to, he will. but you know, that's very close. i think through their cross examination questions, i would argue they've built enough reasonable doubt. we'll see if the jury believes the same. >> ken dilanian, mike memoli, and catherine christian, thank you all very much. and coming up, inside the rnc's decision to hire a stop the steal advocate to help craft its party's platform for decision 2024 and how much influence his election conspiracy theories could have on republican policy making.