against the former president of the united states.f so it has been a fairly quiet place, a fairly quiet area. again, this cordoned off area, mainly for protesters since the beginning of this jury selection process. so this individual setting himself ondi fire in the middlef the square was really not surrounded by anyone else. he had one to two individuals who were in the square nearby about 20 to 25 feet away. the only people that are really here is us, is the press, and there is a huge press presence here, i would say, which is to be understood, and then it's the large amount of security. there are barricades on either side of this street where i'm standing. there are barricades on this side of hogan place along with a block down on the other side of hogan place. so if you want to get, chris, into that cordoned off area where this individual set himself on fire, you're either there f to protest and/or you he a a press pass to get into this