when we're like this continues not seeing them anymore. so, i don't think we're gonna come back, and as much as we care about the humanitarian situation in ukraine now we should try to reserve this attitude, and do not forget about it in several months. because in several months, it is likely to get much worse. >> we also talked about that humanitarian situation. you of course our journalist yourself. one of the conversations that people inside ukraine are having, as they decide whether to stay in their homes, or to seek refuge abroad? >> right. i think -- i'm not there, but i'm talking to many people. and to my impression, it's that people who they are seeing on the border, the famous polish