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Boosters ignition. And lift off of artemis one. We rise together, back to the moon and beyond. Roaring off launch pad 49 be at the Kennedy Space center, the next chapter in americas love affair with all things space. And is on the core stage into Solid Rocket Boosters now prevailing the vehicle at 128 miles per hour. Nasas artemis rocket, the most Powerful Ebel built headed for a multi day crew orbit around the moon. A test flight before astronauts climb into the orion spaceship and head for a lunar landing, perhaps within 2 to 5 years. Flanked with two booster rockets, artemis looks like apollo on steroids. 15 more powerful than the Monster Center five rockets that carried apollo astronauts to the moon. There is a lot out there to explore, and this is the next beginning. And this is the artemis generation. Artemis is all about asserting americas leadership of space, building a lunar base, and orbiting lunar Space Station. Then, in the late 2030s, a Mission To Mars. The moon is a few days away. Mars is months away unless we can develop new propulsion that can take us faster, and that is what we are going to have to do to figure out how we keep humans alive going millions and millions of miles, and then bring them back alive and have all of the supplies that you need. Artemis is the twin greek god of apollo, who has perfect aim. And nasa is building heavily off the lessons built from apollo, the tragedies and the triumphs. This is the quality base here, the eagle has landed. As it aims for a permanent return to the moon. We copy you on the ground, we are breathing again, thank god. A lot has changed since july 1969 when this Mission Control room put Neil Armstrong and buzz aldrin on the moon. Back then, it was all about human exploration, innovation, technology, learning what is beyond the earth. 50 plus years later, it is now also about a strategic and National Security imperative. As nasa heads for the moon and mars, A Geostrategic chess game, is today playing out just 200 miles above the earth, where one wrong move could take out an entire constellation of satellites, upon which the Global Economy and our gps systems all depend. Joint chiefs chairman in November 2022 with a stark warning. We are in the middle of one of the most fundamental changes in the air of the world, in history of mankind. And talk of war extends into space. The space race is no longer a race between just the u. S. And russia, china has leapt on russia, launching more rockets than the u. S. In 2022, completing its own orbiting Space Station. Landing Robotic Missions on the far side of the moon. That country that adapts the fastest, that country that innovates the most, that country is going to have a decisive advantage at the beginning of a war, which i suspect will happen at some point in time, sometime in the deep future. Lets go into space because it is in our dna Neil Degrasse tyson is americas best known astrophysicist. The u. S. And china seem to be engaged in a new race to the lunar surface. How do you see this playing out . We kind of have already been, theyre all right . So in that sense, it is not a race. However, right now we dont have the capacity to send humans back. Not yet. And so it is a race that isnt being run anymore. I think american pride, if china gets there before us even for a second time, that might bruises a little. And maybe we will redouble it and say okay, you take the moon, we are going to mars, if that we doubles that. By the way that would be a geopolitical decision, sure, go for it. Using infrared satellites, every rocket and Missile Launch anywhere in the world is immediately tracked here. This is Missile Warning officer. Im tracking 0098 zulu. At the us Space Command, the joint Operation Center in a. The zeano, the very top of our space Operation Centers with the department of defense. Our cameras were the first cameras allowed inside. Lieutenant general john shaw is the Deputy Demand or. Thats how quickly do they learn something is launched somewhere in the world. We have some really good Space Capabilities today that will tell us that there is any launch. At the pentagon, forced our Space Force General Thompson Says russia continues to jam the gps signal on the ground in ukraine. The same signal provided by the constellation of 30 orbiting Gps Satellites that the u. S. Provides to the world for free. It is that localized ability to jam the signal so the oval receivers cannot receive the information. As the war progressed in the spring of 2022, european airlines, including finn air, accused russia of jamming the gps signals along its border with finland, the civilian airlines rely on. U. S. Military sources also claimed russia has launched Cyber Attacks against the Spacex Starling Satellites over ukraine that provide the country with internet access. Though the u. S. Military says that spacex engineers were able to defend against to the attack by rewriting several lines of Computer Code i think a lot of us expected at the start of the ukraine conflict like that that everything would go lights out. With the ukrainians they would be locked out from the rest of the world, but when starlinks it they can continue to have access to the internet no matter what is happening to them. I think that is causing russians a little bit of discomfort. While russia china and europe all have their own Gps Satellite networks, most of the world, including ukraine in the Global Economy, still depend on the u. S. Gps network provided by the u. S. Military. Major Lauren Taylor directs the operations here. How accurate is the u. S. System . Within a foot and a half guaranteed. A foot and a half . Yes sir. From suburban drivers to international shipping, to farming, to banking, to Disaster Response to u. S. And allied Military Services on the ground. Each satellite actually broadcast multiple signals, illicitly and get their signals, the mcnuggets their signal interesting lee, the russians in the chinese can use our Gps Satellite as well. I bet you they do. They do. Gps receivers have been found taped don to chinese tanks, but we dont know who they are due to the poor quality of their own system. They have been seeing tipping american Gps Receivers to their tanks and cockpits. Almost none of their vehicles contain scituate nil awareness vehicles are friendly when they found with old pictures of ukraine in. The British Defense secretary says he underscores tremendous russian availability. Under u. S. Law, the gps esteemed cannot be turned off to anyone. 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We are focusing on our common unique simple aim, and we had not time for something else. The reason is simple, on station, their lives depend on each other. Its like body systems, to watching each other, and the second is to help each other to assist each other in the distant tasks. But as russian tanks rolled into ukraine, the russian cosmonauts on the station flew a soviet flag, then the flags of the ukrainian regions under russian control. As the west imposed a high tech embargo on russia, the head of the Russian Space agency, dimitri rogozin, said russia would soon leave the station and build its own. The International Space Station Partnership seemed in danger, then suddenly, in the summer of 22, rogozin was replaced and the head of russias human spaceflight program, a former cosmonaut, highly respected at nasa, suddenly changed course for. How committed is rushed to this international cooperation, to the Space Station, and how long will you be a partner with the United States, with japan, with canada and with the International Partners on this program . As i said more than 40 years, ago we will continue our cooperation as long as i can imagine. That was a bombshell. Russia, saying it will continue to cooperate. I wonder if its part of a concerted effort to reease the tension and she turned down the temperature of it. The answer is yes. The answer he said, is. Yes we understand that it makes sense to keep flying because there is excellent infrastructure that Building Base can be used for for humanity. Off camera, crinkle of said he is not speaking for the kremlin, but most experts believe that russia would not be able to build its own station should leave the iss, which nasa now hopes to keep blind through 23. Can we continue this relationship with russia on the iss indefinitely or at least until 2031 . That is what is amazing. In the civilian Space Program, we can have this professional relationship that goes on without a hitch between russians and americans, space fliers while on the face of the earth, the leader of russia is doing in unconscionable invasions of another sovereign country and its incredible. But the Space Station Science Mission is very different from the Military Operations already underway in space. Zero, ignition. Lift off. Go foul, can go, go. 2022, in california, spacex launched a classified government satellite into orbit. And our oella 87. Speed separation confirmed. Believed to be a top secret stateoftheart Spy Satellite that the pentagon says will support its overhead reconnaissance mission. Within months, russia launched its own spike of placing it in the same orbit and just beneath the u. S. Satellite. Its really irresponsible behavior. In an exclusive interview, Space Command four star general James Dickinson said that russia may be trying to get an up close look at u. S. Spy capabilities. We see that it is in his whole civil orbit to one of our high value assets for the u. S. Government, and so we will continue like we always do to continue that update that and track that and characterize that. Zero degrees, three 60 breeze west. The u. S. Uses a Space Satellite to monitor what its adversaries are doing, this is the newest infrared satellite used to take the heat signatures from any missile or Rocket Launcher anywhere in the world. This is half, scale the real satellite is about the size of a school bus. On this day, closely watching both taiwan and ukraine. We are watching pretty much any country from the world that need to be watching for a interNational Security perspective. And we are capable. International search satellite expert say that it is no coincidence that russia launched its rocket the very moment the u. S. Spy satellite passed over the russian launch site. Markle land brooks tracked Satellite Movements from the netherlands. There is a part of the cold war going on in space, so it is basically part of this is to get on the game that is going on in space. Keeping watch over americas military and Spy Satellites is the top priority at this classified Space Force Ops center. More than 70 of military Satellite Communications come through here, everything from Nuclear Command to control orders, two president ial communications, down to a coast guard cutter, a submarine, even Tactical Units on the ground, how vulnerable are american satellites . The u. S. Says both russia and china have intentionally demonstrated offensive military capabilities in space. Targeting in destroying their old satellites, Scattering Thousands of pieces of debris across low rift org bit, posing a risk to other satellites and forcing the Space Station to adjust its position to avoid getting hit. Indeed, the Space Station was threatened, which, by the way, not only has astronauts but it also has cosmonauts on it. The u. S. His says that when it conducted a similar task in 1889, it was at a low altitude. Heres the difference, the china satellite that they took out was high enough in orbit so that all those pieces are still there. That is creating a debris catastrophe. If you take up a satellite and lower thwarted, the Air Molecules that, trace Air Molecules that are there, it will slow it down and take it out of orbit in due time. Take i so that the low earth orbit hasnt greedy has a self cleaning mechanism. High up, it does not. And so it was, in that sense, irresponsible to do this. Because now, forgive the reference, but it is like being in the pool. We all went swimming in the same pool. The pentagon says that russia has also deployed a nesting satellite, that carries an Offensive Weapon which has already used to test fire a missile or a bullet very close to a top secret americans by satellite. So the russians knew very well that they were observing us. They also knew about their statement to us and theyre threatening to our capabilities. And china has deployed a satellite with it robotic arm that can grab or damage other satellites. The pentagon says that chinas Space Program is now outpacing the u. S. , with more than 60 launches in 2022. Building a remote remodel robotic post on the far side of the moon, invisible to u. S. Satellites, the concern, beijing could one day deploy Offensive Weapons in the space between the moon and earth. An area called cislunar. Because all of the activity that is happening on the moon has to go through sizzler and space. In the coming years, the u. S. Is preparing to launch a satellite into the cislunar, to monitor chinese activity. In 2022 the Colorado Company placed a small satellite called, capstone, into cislunar. They did this to survey the best orbit for a future Space Station called gateway, that will orbit the moon. This is capstone, the actual size, it is around 50 pounds or, so it has these deployable solar panels that the key to this is the antenna on top, which transmits and connects directly with an orbiting nasa satellite. What we are creating is a gps of the moon that is expandable to effectively become the foundation for what the internet of the moon of the future might look like. And captain is also helping the u. S. Gain the high ground with eyes on that cysts lunar space. You are not running a Spy Satellite, necessarily. But can you see what some chinese Satellite Activity already . The underlying capabilities we have, to fly a satellite at the moon, allows us to also take other data and track other satellites at the moon, whether it be nasa or other countries. In one of you already seen . We detected an oddly tracked satellite from china that was returning to the moon late last year. How do you determine what is a hostile act in space . We are working through that now, we dont have that history like we do in the other demands to be open, so as we are encountering these threatening activities for the first time, it is forcing us to really define these terms. When we come back, chinas ambitions to play a dominant role in space, on the moon, and beyond. People couldnt see my potential. So i had to show them. Ive run this place for 20 years, but i still need to prove that im more than what you see on paper. Today im the ceo of my own company. Its the way my mind works. I have a very mechanical brain. Why are we not rethinking this . I am more. 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Military and civilian Space Experts caution that china is now outpacing the u. S. In launches and in modernizing its own Space Capabilities, completing its own orbit Space Station, building a remote world bought a post on the far side of the moon, now invisible to u. S. Satellites. And deploying offensive satellite weapons, but does the u. S. Also have satellite based weapons . U. S. Commanders wont say. Well i think we have options on the table, but i would prefer not go into those right now. Does the United States have offensive capabilities in space already . So i am not going to talk about what capabilities we may have or may not have, i will definitely say that what the chinese and russians have done is irresponsible and, frankly, do not help in terms of this domain. But many in the u. S. Say that it is time to declassify some of americas capabilities in space, there are some things that we can do that i think would help children throughs jasmine for aggression if they do more about our capability. Copy, copy. For decades, the u. S. Air force and its Space Command have been responsible for launching americas spy and military satellites. Then, in 2019, with more than countries competing at low earth orbit, the white house and congress consolidated those responsibilities under a brand new space force. Like it or not, the Reality Field is that the battlefield is changing from planet earth to space. This is the view of the Asian Pacific sphere, and the Threat Matrix in space is very different. It is congested, it is contested, and it is competitive. They make our north Warning System look like a picket fence. Underscoring the evolving threat, the commanding general of nor red warned in 2022, that america has a quote, picket fence, as an offense against russian intercontinental ballistic missiles. And what we are focused on, bio extremists, for the last 20 plus years, they were developing capabilities to have their homeland not be a risk. Sitting on top of an icbm nuclear capable, it has been out there for around four years, it is been operational with the United States of america but how should the u. S. Respond with russia and china testing Offensive Weapons in space, blowing up their own satellites . In december 2021, astronauts and cosmonauts on a face station had to shelter an Escape Capsule in case the station was hit by debris from the russian test. The fear . Each explodes ding satellite could take out another ten satellites, and each of those another ten. Quickly cascading and wiping out the very satellites the worlds economies depend on. These tests to be sure, are reckless. And they are irresponsible. In december 22, the Un General Assembly voted to ban anti Satellite Tests after Vice President harris called for a global, moratorium. China and russia voted no. Simply put, these tests are dangerous. And we will not conduct them. That was just silly. It is going to happen. Republican mike rogers is the Ranking Member of the house of Armed Services committee. China and russia couldnt care less what our Statement Policy is with regard to things like that, we need to be working on real policy that provides defensive capabilities to protect our satellites from their offensive endeavors. Space force commanders say that all u. S. Satellites, military and commercial, are already targeted by russia and china, with cyber pros, single jamming and laser dazzling. The hope, the more satellites the u. S. Puts into orbit, the less effective a single attack might be. Military commanders worry that china could one day deploy satellites to cislunar, that vast area of space between the moon and earth. The air force Research Laboratory in the response, the air force Laboratory Lab is planning to launch its moan and borrowing a name from a 1970s tv show the cislunar Highway Patrol system, or chips, will bypass thousands of government and commercial cyber lights. As it makes its way to a really before visited domain, 272 miles from earth. Are you concerned about what is the increased Military Presence in space . Whether its space force, whether its anti Satellite Tests, whether its chinas alleged ambitions for the moon . Are you concerned about that . This has been going on continually, the existence of a space force, really, is this it is an entity that was just simply behind the curtains of the u. S. Air force. It has been there all along. And they just said, lets pull the curtains out, you were there, and you put up the Gps Satellites, the gps is a military project. For navigation. But houston, the quality base, here the eagle has landed. More than 50 years since Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin First landed on the moon in 1969. Rst landed it is one small st, One Giant Leap for mankind. A 1967 street by 111 countries including the u. S. Is still in effect, encouraging the peaceful exploration of space and prohibiting Military Bases on the moon or in space. Testing Nuclear Weapons and conducting military maneuvers. But the u. N. Treaty does not prohibit non Nuclear Weapons. And when i first read that i said, oh that is beautiful, that is beautiful. And then as i got older, a little more cynical, i said wait a minute. You think that just because you transport humans from earths surface, where we are killing each other, into space that all of a sudden we are going to behave completely differently . Then you dont understand humans. By the way, i will believe it if you can demonstrate that you can do it on earth. And by the way, if you can do it in space, why not do it on earth. Show me. If why should space be any different . By the way, earth is in space. Last i checked. Okay . So, im sorry i am screaming at you here, but you are getting me riled. Charlie bolden was a marine corps pilot, a general, and an astronaut before becoming the head of nasa under president obama. We cant have open warfare. We have got to discipline ourselves so that we dont make this potential War Fighting Domain A Real war fighting domain. And a lot of the streams that we have of exploration and humanity going to places beyond our orbit, they are never going to become true. When we come back, the space force isnt just responsible for protecting u. S. Satellites and operations in space, it is also charged with protecting the planet from armageddon. I am. And you need this. 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All across the country children are being pushed to max capacity. New data on the economy outlines the effects of inflation for americans across the country. Protesting. Ing. The return to the moon is only the beginning of human exploration. One of the last frontiers. Deep space has been on the Drawing Board for both nasa and the commercial Space Companies for decades. The next great race may very well be to the martian surface. Lets talk about where we are right now with the space race. It feels like we are on the cusp of something big, whether there is the moon or mars or spacex. How do you really kind of gauge what we are right now in this whole space endeavor . I think the entrepreneur commercial participation in this quest to access space should have happened decades is. Go as early as the 1990s, we should have had private tourism already stoked. And you are talking about space tourism. What about going to mars . Elon musk is determined to put humans on. Mars does that make sense . Are you looking for elon . He is not. Theyre sorry. My read of history tells me that we, or any civilization, doesnt do expensive dangerous things. Unless there is some really significant driver for it. Its, never lets do it because it is the next natural thing to do. Lets go to space because it is in our dna. Or lets explore because we are americans and movie frontier. That has never driven anything in the history of civilization. You know what has . Fear of dying. The war driver. You know what else . The desire to get rich. The money driver. Without those two drivers operating at full force, i did together or independently, i dont see it happening. You dont see this happening in the near term . Correct. Unless there is a geopolitical force operating, such as what happened with the sputnik. A man made celestial, body for the first time in history, overcame terrestrial gravity and flew into space. Okay. What would that . Be china says they just have to make a memo. Does not even have to be true. They just have to leak a memo saying theyre trying to put new bases on mars. We were there 12 months. Three months, to, fund design, build the Space Station. Nine months to take it. There you have said that you are concerned about the interception between the military Industrial Complex and nasa and space engineers. Right . There is a two way street between discoveries made in the military, that could benefit nasa and scientists, and discoveries made by scientists that could benefit the military. When you read the history of science and war, the relationship between physicists and warfare is well known. Because they make, weapons they know how to make the weapons. Especially in the nuclear era. They, argument that is, is if you are the u. S. You are the one who controls the rules. Yes if China Controls space, and we need permission to get to the and pay the toll or whatever, it is not clear how much we would take credit for that. That is correct. We all want to be optimistic about space. Captains, lock start at seven to 09. You grew up watching star trek. So did. I you grew up idolizing Neil Armstrong and buzz aldrin. Was that idealistic . Are we just headed for something that is a reality in space . And that was really wants . I think you need the peaceful ideology to be in the dialogue. Otherwise there is no hope of it ever achieving that. You still need to believe that the better science of assault will one day matter. The better angels of our fates will somehow, if not be the destination, influence the unfolding of geopolitics en route. Because without, it is a wild west. It sounds like right now you are skeptical, you are concerned. Im a realist in that sense. I care about all of humanity. As a scientist, as a human. Im just saying, maybe more people needs to go into orbit and have a look at themselves through space. And you realize does not look like the globe that you are trained on from your earliest memories. The school, Globe Color Coded countries, why . Why is it the first image of earth you are giving me . Its to find out who your enemies, are and who your friends are. Who you are going to, fight who you did. Fight you might fight tomorrow. That is the First Impression you are giving me have this beautiful planet earth. And you are going to, space and you see it as nature intends you to see it. With oceans and land and clouds. Not a hint of a National Border to be found. Coming, up the new defense against a Planet Killing Asteroid and the new mission of America Space force. America space force. Id like to thank our sponsor liberty mutual. They customize your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. Contestants ready . Go only pay for what you need. Jingle liberty. Liberty. Liberty. 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Photographic proof that photographic dirt and rock, the moment the refrigeratorsized spacecraft crashed into dimorphos, giving it a big shove, dramatically shortening its orbit even more than what nasa had hoped. It was expected to be a huge success, even only slightly move by about ten minutes. But actually slowed it by 32 minutes. A critical test of nasa hopes to use that same technique to one day divert a mega asteroid from hitting earth. There is a heading directly towards. Birth a nightmare scenario played out in Hollywood Mega hits. This is a killer. Potentially a real life threat to the global population. Nasa chief bill nelson. It may be the clue of what we can do in the future to try to save life here on earth. Nasa says it does not see any Asteroid Posing and immediate threat to earth. But in 2013, a Massive Media are escaped detection exploded over a remote russian village, injuring some 1500 people. Impacts from asteroids have had a profound effect on life on earth. You can ask the dinosaurs about that. 66 million years ago, an asteroid nearly a mile wind made it through the atmosphere, striking mexicos peninsula. Wiping out most of the dinosaurs, preventing a future meteor struck will require advanced notice unlocked. It is very reliable that nasa and other species can have decades of time. Cant track these things reliably 400 plus years. With enough warnings, scientists hope that a dark nudge will be less risky than using a Nuclear Missile to target an inbound planets killer. Potentially creating a massive debris field. Part of the charge to americas new space force, partnering with nasa to detect and respond to just such a threat. As they are looking out to deep space, understanding what is going on there. Looking to astros that can be a hazard to the earth. We could have some capabilities that could actually bring to their choices. Asteroids themselves may be rich in minerals. There are metallic asteroids that contained more gold than his apartment mind in the history of the world. Another Platinum Group elements that are valuable to our modern tech economy. So who owns asteroids . These are interesting legal frontier questions. When you go into space, it is not just the scientists and engineers and the politicians. There are the ethicists. The frontier of space law needs to consider all of this. So that i would hope that as we move into space, as space becomes our backyard, we know how to behave. In ways that are for the greater good of us all. Meanwhile, americas future Artemis Missions will carry astronauts to the lunar surface in 2025 at the earliest, with four astronauts in the space shift arrived. It much more comfortable ride than 50 years ago. In the beginning, god created heaven and the earth. Just like apollo, the astronauts on iran will lift off on their backs. But there is 30 more room in awry and then apollo. Which means theres four astronauts instead of three. Right over there is a retractable Rowing Machine for exercise. North right there is a commode. Nasa is also testing out this new suit for future missions. Were placing the suits worn by shuttle astronauts. The new suit designed to keep astronauts alive for 144 hours, showed their spaceship lose chasm cabin pressure. You can see there is a feat port here, were using a specialized design you can put Liquid Nutrition in. Think of like a Protein Shake in there. Crew member will be able to drink that. Its a hot . Feels, good nice and cool, sir. Cool . Yes theres a lot to love to write that keeps me nice and cool. Even on a hot day . Yes, sir. I can be gently in this space suit, not very unlike when i can do on earth. Announces Training Pool Engineers and drivers already testing new suit designs for future moon rock walks. Covering the bond with sand and rocks, to recreate lunar conditions. Even placing the american flag. Whats just like with the apollo astronauts did in preparation for their mission. They have to try to replicate with this like on the south pole of the moon. Where the sun is very low, right in your eyesight. Everywhere else in this pitch black. Nasa believes there is water ice on the south pole. A potential source of Drinking Water and rocket fuel. When it is, colder with less sunlight, this is the Deputy Tree Chief of the pole land. This has a dusk lighting, and the behind any kind of large rock or things like that, its just going to be very dark. Certainly easier to drive when you are in the sunlight, absolutely. Those shadows are so long. Already, astronauts are using simulators to practice driving a rover on the moon. Astronauts need to learn how to drive a rover without going into one of their holes. Thats correct. You very often dont know how deep these trains are. It is difficult to tell how big these lots are. We have 18 inches of clearing in the Reference Vehicle here. There are rocks you cannot drive. Nasa has promised the first astronaut to land on the moon will include a woman and a person of color. Captain Victor Glover went to the Space Station on spacex crew one. We have a tour that represents our country. We look like the and that is important because it is the right thing to do. By 20, 30 nasa hopes to have a lunar base. A new international station called gate we will orbit the moon as a sign. Space, already future gateway Space Station is coming together in houston. Eventually, for five of these will be glued to gather, orbiting the moon. With crews spending on average 30 days on the station. There will be four astronauts that will come via orion to gateway. Of them can go down to the lunar surface. About a six and a half day for those first missions. Two of them say i get way doing research and activities. And in The Other Two will come back nasa hopes to use gateway in the lunar base to go even deeper into space, with a crude Mission To Mars by the 2030. Picking up where the, rovers sojourners, Opportunity Curiosity and perseverance left off. Looking for signs of ancient or even current life. That is decades. Away orion is right on the money, coming right down the pipe. This is now. You are seeing yourself. Right there in that image. Nasas orion uncrewed spacecraft, traveling 268,000 miles beyond earth. During his 25day mission. It lunar flyover just 80 miles above the surface, sending spectacular harbor solution images. Then, 40,000 miles further, into deep space, a stable orbit for a full shakedown. That gives all of our engineers, our flight controllers, the chance to really learn by the Riots Systems in deep space. Learn about flying a spacecraft farther than we have ever sent one intended for humans. We are going beyond anywhere we have erwin for apollo. Back to the moon for a slingshot return to earth. The view looking at the orion window. This is a Moment Of Truth for orion. As a rind screamed the mystery at 32 times the speed of sound. New Protective Shield hidden 5000 degrees. The temperature of the sun. To bleed off speed, nasa skip the Space Station off the atmosphere, before dipping back in sowing from 25,000 miles per hour. There. Is high on the pacific. To a gentle landing 300 miles south of san diego. Splash down. The latest chapter of nasas journey to the moon comes to a close. Ryan, back on earth. When the entire mission is picture perfect. With exceeding the engineering expectations, when some of the stage for the next flight and the moon landing. We go back to the moon to learn to live, to, work to invent, to create. In order to go on into the cosmos, to further explore. We america and International Partners may be poised to go to the moon, was trying to just behind by a few years, and determined to stay. And then to mars. It is the beginning of the new beginning. And that is to explore the heavens. A new field for the indomitable human spirit of exploration, innovation, cooperation. Rising above the worst of human nature. A battlefield in space. Today on velshi, he has brian to go to the art of the