defense if you are committing a crime. that's the i can't follow your orders because, sir, it is illegal. and everybody knows that. so, i don't think he can meet those two standards, and therefore i don't think, even at the low standard of proof that is it's not beyond a reasonable doubt, you don't have to prove that it's absolutely going to have been, i don't think you can meet those standards. and the case will not be removed for any of the. >> so, really quickly, jill, just as a matter of procedure, is this a hearing that we would expect a decision on the day of, and more importantly, is it one we're fani willis's team gets to present the republic to the points that mark meadows makes, that this case should be removed? >> great question, ayman. yes. in the end, fani willis is prepared now for the defense. she has subpoenaed witnesses, including the secretary of state, who can testify to the