they say, why should i pay for something that our ancestors did. >> right, sure, that's the common -- we're asking for it to be re-framed in a sense. >> do you think that this could actually change peoples minds, make it different and the perception, or as unleashed this kind of polarization that existed, was there but as harden people into, yes, we need to have the conversation and the force on the other side, which is banning books and going further, banning words not to be used and trying to change the narrative around what african american advanced history looks like? >> i think it has already changed things enormously. i think it's important to understand that this is not new. this is something that happened during the civil war, something that we really breakdown in the series, right? we talk about moving into a truly multi racial democracy. what does that look like when everybody is included and not one sector of the country is