the next steps. but is that even possible? where do things really stand in vienna right now? in fact, is there anything left to salvage? now joining me to discuss this and more is rob malley, the biden administration special envoy for iran, he was also lead negotiator in the 2015 iran nuclear deal, also known as the joint comprehensive plan of action or jcpoa. robert, thank you so much for joining us, i appreciate your time greatly. the news this week, i have to say, makes the deal look like it is hanging by a thread, if it is not already dead. u.s. officials saying iran's nuclear program was already gone too far for the deals original framework to even matter. what should we be making of the headlines this week? >> so first, i would say great to be on your show, ayman. so, i think that no u.s. official i know has said there's no point into cutting back into the deal, given this information. on the contrary. what we have heard so far, all the advances iran has made has bolster the case of getting