that pipeline, that mr. putin has been so proud of, and so eager to get into operation, that goes from russia, the gas pipeline from russia into germany, the germans have said, in so many words, that that pipeline won't go into operation. and other nations are sending different kinds of weapons. we're sending some support to the front lines. the french are sending support to the front lines. the dutch are sending -- are sending aircraft. the spanish are sending ships. we're all doing it differently, and it's all in the same direction. >> right. do you think the u.s. right now is taking the right course of action? what would you be advising president biden, if you could, on what they should or should not be doing to deter president putin from this action? >> right. i would say don't blink. i would say, stand your ground.