charges were filed against the original district attorney in charge of ahmaud arbery's death on the charge of violating her oath of office. the charge was that she discouraged arrest of the three men who killed arbery. there is still so much work left to be done. let's talk about this verdict. what was your reaction to the guilty verdicts for arbery's killers? did the verdict surprise you and bring you a sense of release, as they did for me? >> it surprised me because we never see verdi like this.