to see how successful. and terry has been focusing on donald trump and so has gavin newsome. fears have been a motivator for democrats in 2020 and 2018. i do think at this point that may be the strongest thing they have. a fear of trumpism and what the party may need from them. >> ramp ant right now in the gop. asking you about the blow back at shore including this piece who argues that dems are preparing to abandon black voters again. what is your take? how would you rate how democrats have done with some of the core