the colonies, it was in the declaration of independence of what the king had done wrong that offended the colonists and caused the revolution. and the documents around the founding, and around the creation of the constitution all reflect passionate belief in the importance of the jury, including the civil jury, which as you may know from your experience and the trial court is getting to be a rarer and rarer creature. and in pact, there are trial judges who have written about how do we keep the civil jury alive? and i'd like to hear your thoughts whether there's more to the civil jury than just a fact finding appendage of the trial judge. whether was seen by the founders and whether it belongs in our constitutional structure as a part of the responsible self