supply those migs, not to get into an air war over ukraine. he said don't kid yourself, that would be world war iii. joining us now, i can't think of a better guest, richard haas. you've studied this, worked at the state department at the white house, you've written about this. where do you stand on this and where we stand with russia today in. >> where we stand is we put together an impressive what you might call indirect policy, andrea. indirect military support that's extensive to ukraine. you just heard the president articulate why direct military support isn't there and i agree there.