atmosphere when we pretend the only way you can demonstrate qualifications is to go to certain schools. well, i don't think that's right. >> melissa, he's advocating for a south carolina federal judge. do you think that's dispositive with this white house? >> i don't know if it's dispositive. i would like to push back on representative clyburn's view that own lee the quality of one's school projects a diversity at the court. in fact, all three of these perspective nominees have very diverse work experiences. judge jackson was a public defender before becoming a judge. justice kruger would be the first justice to have state court experience since david suitor and sandra day o'connor. i want to say the fact of going to a public school will be a great asset. we saw that with amy coney barrett who attended schools outside of the ivy league. that's not the only diversity