and whatever was wrong with this, despite the fact it was endangering our elections, despite the fact that it was endangering peace in europe, despite the fact that every expert, even those that donald trump had himself appointed, were telling him what he was doing was not good for the country, he did it anyway. that is astounding. and that should give us pause. >> it's an argument i'll call contemporary standards, for lack of anything better. jason johnson, politics editor at "the root" and among our contributors has also been watching and listening with us. jason, your assessment thus far. >> this is where i stand up for fellow professors like myself. there is a difference in what you get when professors are speaking versus long term sort of bureaucrats and staffers. and that's what i've noticed in particular about just this morning's testimony. these are all individuals whose job it is, in their daily work, to explain things to people, to