exactly you both heard on the call that you heard at the exact same time. and if you can't reach an agreement with regard to what happened on the call, how can any of us? an impeachment inquiry is supposed to be clear. it's supposed to be obvious. it's supposed to be overwhelming and compelling. and if two people on the call disagree honestly about whether or not there was a demand and whether or not anything should be reported on a call, that is not a clear and compelling basis to undo 63 million votes and remove a president from office. i yield my remaining time to mr. jordan. >> i thank the gentlemen for yielding. colonel vindman. why didn't you go -- after the call, why didn't you go to mr. morrison? >> i went immediately, per the instructions from the july 10th incident, i went immediately to mr. eisenberg.