what they would be doing. >> and i think to your point, chris, about hunter biden, i think that's why dan goldman made such an important point in asking yovanovitch about, if in removing a general prosecutor who was not actually doing anything to prosecute any corruption in the ukraine, wouldn't that make hunter biden more vulnerable? because if you're going to work to put someone in office who is going to aggressively go after corruption that's actually counter to their narrative about what joe biden was doing. and i think that was an incredibly elegant moment in making sure he's buttressing against that kind of argument. >> so convicted felon roger stone leaving court right now. roger stone found guilty on seven counts that include lying to congress. let's listen and see if we catch him answering questions.