the focus as narrow as that has been so far, focused on the ukraine, not on all the things that some democrats want to impeach the democrats for. >> the white house is trying to brand this as illegitimate, unconstitutional, and attacking the process which most lawyers will tell thought process is whatever she wants it to be. >> right. and when you're attacking the process, you're already losing. i keep coming back to this question. if the call was so perfect as the president has been saying for days on end, why not be cooperative? why not let the eu ambassador, our ambassador to the eu, testify? why not let people testify and say what a great job and how perfect this call was? i mean, it's a rhetorical question, because we know the answer, it was not a perfect call, the transcript, or i should say the notes of the call on july 25th were not perfect, which is why where we are right now. >> and i would suggest one other answer. it's whatever rudy giuliani was