i get upset when people say he's too old, or -- that's the question, you know, can someone win. i mean, i remind people that people said barrack couldn't win and people said trump could not win. >> joe crowley, as the only one of us who has gone out and campaigned for votes. what is your sense of joe biden's place right now as voters in iowa, new hampshire, are still shopping? >> what i think is interesting, andrea, is that i think a number of these folks were hoping for a big joe biden stumble and that they would inherit that good will to some degree in terms of middle ground or the center left. we see with more of these folks dropping out, that hasn't happened. there isn't anything to inherit. it's going to continue to narrow. i do think though that you know, joe biden continues to tout his relationship obviously with former president obama. the 11th year anniversary is