there, of course, because these are supposedly the big champions of state courts, and state law. but they are trying to flee from it as quickly as possible, to get into the warmer climate of the federal judiciary. >> so, what could we learn tomorrow in court? new analysis from aaron blanca at the washington post reads quote, the big development would be meadows taking the stand, which some legal experts doubt he will do. regardless, the hearing could provide our first view of how some other key witnesses testified. and, it could set the tone when it comes to whether other defendants have their cases removed from fulton county. joining us now, msnbc legal analyst lisa reuben, an msnbc political contributor matt dowd. he served as chief strategist for the bush cheney 2004 presidential campaign. it's good to see you both. lisa, set the stage for me, what happens tomorrow, why is it important? tomorrow, we see manic monday, as i've been calling this. it's a very telling day for donald trump, in two ways. it's going to determine the