raising our two sons. following our faith in god. that is the american dream. >> for you, haven't written an entire book what it means. because it of course is deeply personal, it means so much to your family. there is a broader social point that you're trying to make. >> it is deeply, deeply personal book. i've written a lot about my mom. but the reason i wrote it is because there is an urgent political message, and i think that clip you played demonstrates exactly why over the summer we saw affirmative action get it. and it was gutted on the back of the model minority myth. and what we just heard him say is invoking that same myth, the idea that because he succeeded and achieved quote unquote the american dream, therefore that proves that america is a meritocracy, where everyone can succeed if they work hard enough. and we know that that's not true. >> we know that that's not true. it's also wall to me that it was said on stage, where you also have other candidates