they learn to suppress. and this is what happened in my family. you learn to suppress and hide everything that doesn't fit with that image. and that has severe psychological and social impacts. and in my family, it really affected our ability to create a vulnerability and intimacy with each other. because we were so focused on being able to protect the right image, the image that america expected us to project. >> it also occurs to me, that it has much as that can commit -- within more exclude -- it can also pick people against each other. underneath those umbrellas. it strikes me that t --e umbre the model minority myth as there are two indian americans who are vying for the gop nomination. vivek ramaswamy and nikki haley. i want you to take a listen to something that called manchin on the debate stage. >> my parents came to this country with no money 40 years ago. i have gone on to found multibillion dollar companies. i did it while mary my wife.