we getting over the pandemic? all of these things can be passed through legislation and different policies the biden action is currently pushing. >> here is the thing with what santiago is pushing, it's a youk about young voters. there's always some kind of groan and why are we talking about them? they're not going to show up. we have to invite them into the conversation. we have to make them part of the conversation, so that their resources, that their efforts to understanding things like that college differential. i'm going to guess you were in a lot of meetings where you were asked, if poll numbers look like that, why do you think we shouldn't be investing? >> i think there is a lack of messaging. that is something we've seen with our own research. the biggest issue is young voters simply do not understand