transformative relief for many people. i believe the vice president strongly supports this and wants to see this as well. >> erica, when i think about what representative gosar has said, nothing new, right, nothing we haven't heard before. and it is both meant to rile up their base, but it is also meant to scare democrats who don't want to go home to their district and have to deal with this as an issue. what do you say to those democrats? >> listen, we have lost many opportunities to pass immigration reform because democrats are scared. and the fact is that they lost elections, not necessarily because of immigration, they just lost elections because they haven't been able to give the motivation that our communities need to be able to go out to the polls and actually get -- you know, get them elected. to me, you know, what scares me the most is that if we continue