preparing for up to 400,000 migrants at the southern border this month and concerned that it would spur more migrants to come. with me the executive director of next gen america. there is humility in the apology and what we are talking about is real systemic change that likely cannot happen until title 42 is reckoned with. where do you see this going? >> we have seen groups file suit against the administration saying that title 42 in place is a legal and inhumane for asylum seekers trying to seek a better life and the impact of what we have seen happen with haitians blocked at the border, being rounded up and even whipped. there's the apology for those cruel images but ultimately the policies have to be changed that allowed for those abss to