talking about all these attacks, i just -- i'm just so disappointed and really inspired by the leadership. groups like the arizona center for empowerment, groups like georgia stand up, these kind of organizations because our government has failed, they have taken it upon themselves to fight for full and true democracy. >> so, debby, all of this, nsk, with an eye towards 2022 and 2024, which brings us back to ron desantis. i will guess much like at the top of the show, we were talking about how greg abbott's presidential ambitions are the worst case secret in texas, that your governor's presidential ambitions are the worst kept secret in florida. is that correct? >> i think everyone knows that his political ambitions are coming before the interest of