because i think the idea -- even after january 6th, the idea that we would still be talking about the election that president trump -- former president trump would still be trying to overturn said election or said states, that that would still be happening to this day. >> right. >> and it still is. i think what is happening in the republican party is something that is hard to get our hands around in trying to figure it out because it is growing and continuing. and it is going to continue until someone stops it and there is no one in the republican party willing to do so other than people like liz cheney and adam kinzinger. >> you either understand it is growing or you understand this was always the plan, making it impossible for president biden to actually govern. you wrote a piece this week for the "washington post" about how trump's election 2016 was a turning point for a lot of women, including yourself. you write about one of your fears of his possible return. quote. i now worry the democrats lack the instinct for the jugular needed to expose the gop's is a