the other thing, alicea, is that we need to understand, this is not just a black people's issue, right. these voting rights and voting rights protections impact people of color, including latin-x voters, native boaters voerts, which we're talking about elders, young voters. so this is a fight for all of us. so we all have to be in the streets, pushing on congress. and manchin, and ilk like his, have to understand that they must act. that they must do this for everyone in this country. >> dean, i feel like judith and i have been having the same will they/won't they, will they/won't they conversation for the same four or five months, which is why you really caught my attention arguing that president biden should defund states that restrict voting rights. tell me what that would look like? >> the gop loves to fund anything that they don't agree with. critical race theory, mask