but we're focused on the president, joy, because at the end of the day, the president is the one who was misusing american taxpayer dollars for his own personal benefit, and we want the american people to stay focused on his conduct rather than anyone else's. >> eric swalwell, congressman eric swalwell, appreciate your time this morning. >> thanks, joy. joining me now, simon rosenberg, the president of a think tank ndn, and it was also a senior adviser to the dccc in 2017 and 2018. thank you for being here. >> great to be here. >> thank you very much. you have written a lot about what you think that congress ought to be doing as they proceed down this road on impeachment. i want to read a little bit. and this is element 8 for my producers. congress should consider breaking down the impeachment process into three separate tracks focusing on the criminal, the co-conspirators and national security review. how would that play out knowing that we're dealing with a december 20 sort of soft deadline? >> well, i think part of what i'm laying out here is this has