he knows my son. he knows there's nothing to this. trump is now essentially holding power over him that even ukranians wouldn't yield to. lindsey is about to go down in a way that i think he's going to regret his whole life. >> what do you say to him? >> i say lindsey, i -- i just -- i'm just embarrassed by what you're doing for you. i mean, my lord. >> well, perhaps that whole work with republicans when the election fever breaks thing might be harder there mr. biden thought. joining me is david jolly and that tacnatasha bertrand. how serious is this graham investigation of the bidens? how serious does it look? >> we with don't know at this point. i mean all he's ak hully done is request documents related to hunter biden and joe biden's relationship with the