constitutional responsibility to provide checks and balances and to remove from office a man who has thoroughly abused the public trust. >> right. and we've got plenty of time down the road to see if they actually do that. but, jennifer, this is sunday. and all over the sunday shows are republicans out there. kellyanne conway being chief among them as we just saw, out there defending the -- defending the president. to my mind, defending the indefensible. and i say it's indefensible because we've watched the president several times on the south lawn of the white house saying, yeah, i did it. so do you have, given all of that, do you have the same fear that cynthia has that we're going down this road where the trump administration from the president on down will be able to confuse things so much that the american people say, you know what? this is too confusing. i don't get it and who cares? >> i think there are two things to keep an eye on. first, these polls have already