and in the criminal context, you will rule in ways that people who may have a violent background or maybe part of an organized crime syndicate are not going to like. so there is that as sort of a baseline. that's a scary aspect of the profession. but in this, case you have the most famous person in the country, more or less, with the most sort of rabid fan base, repeatedly and specifically targeting you, if you're jack smith or judge chutkan. >> right, and what trump is doing is neither patriotic nor mature. he is neither of these things. and what he is doing is inciting the base because he wants the judges to be intimidated. and all i can do in all of us can do is hope and pray that judges who take that oath to uphold the constitution and all of the laws will continue to do so and not be intimidated by this rhetoric and also this violence. and by the, way social media is not helping, because that